Hede Historical Forum.
This is the oldest historical forum in the Ji Kingdom's internet, established in the thirteenth year of Empress Hede, the second empress of Ji. At that time, the internet had only been around for three years, and historical forums had never even appeared.
Previously, news websites had dominated.
Within this forum, there was an ancient thread, almost as old as the forum itself. It was a discussion and analysis post published by the forum owner on November 6th, the thirteenth year of Hede, the day after the forum's establishment.
[Discussing the True Identity of Empress Haoyue?]
To this day, this thread has existed on the forum for 150 years. Yet, even after 150 years, it remains the most bustling thread on the forum. Every generation, after studying the history related to Empress Haoyue, would feel profound confusion and immense interest, naturally searching online, and consequently stumbling upon this hottest thread.
This was because their search engines did not allow for paid rankings. Rankings were determined solely by relevance and the number of clicks and replies. For a thread that had existed for 150 years, it would be unthinkable if it couldn't compete with newer threads in terms of clicks and replies.
Therefore, no matter who searched for information about Empress Haoyue, the first result they would find was this thread.
Furthermore, during Empress Haoyue's birthday and death anniversary, this thread would receive a surge of traffic and discussions.
Some archaeology majors even specifically came to "dig up" this thread for research. After all, this thread was so ancient, containing comments from people who lived closest to Empress Haoyue's era.
The reliability of these comments was higher than later conjecture.
In short, this thread was a treasure trove.
As Empress Haoyue's birthday approached, this ancient thread on the Hede Historical Forum, as in previous years, quickly saw a massive influx of traffic. Some came to commemorate, while many newcomers arrived, slowly scrolling back through the comments, starting from 150 years ago.
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"Discussing the True Identity of Empress Haoyue?"
#1樓: The latest internet regulations and guidelines recently promulgated by the Yu regime mention that as long as Empress Haoyue is not intentionally slandered or insulted, free discussion is permitted online.
Therefore, this thread is boldly established.
I invite all curious netizens to share their knowledge and together explore the origins of the Empress's identity.
#2樓: Twelve hours have passed, and no one has notified me to delete the post, so I assume it can continue. I will then boldly offer my own humble opinion on Empress Haoyue.
The fact that Empress Haoyue's surname was Ji should be beyond doubt. After all, if her surname were not Ji, there would be no reason for her to arbitrarily claim parents and siblings with the surname Ji. Moreover, given Empress Haoyue's legendary abilities, even if she were an orphan, no one could refute her.
Therefore, I believe Empress Haoyue's mortal identity.
Ji Haoyue, should be problem-free.
At least, it was problem-free before she and her entire family were unjustly accused and imprisoned by Emperor Minghui.
Empress Haoyue's life in her first sixteen years was unremarkable. The specific turning point occurred after Empress Haoyue was imprisoned and subsequently strangled by her mother.
This is not my own fabrication.
Both the recollections of the prison guards at the time, the testimonies of other female inmates imprisoned with her, and those saved by Empress Haoyue all explicitly mentioned this. Some witnessed it firsthand, others overheard the exchange between Empress Haoyue and her mother, and it was clearly stated.
The related information was widely circulated at the time, and because of this, many believed Empress Haoyue's birth mother was unworthy of being an Empress Dowager, having murdered her own daughter and being quite unfilial.
It was only because Empress Haoyue stated she did not wish to pursue the matter that no one brought it up again.
As for why this happened, an elder who was a prison warden once mentioned that such an event was not particularly uncommon at the time. This was because, after women entered prison, there was generally only one outcome: being assigned to the Jiaofang Si (Music and Dance Bureau), where they would serve as maids, or become prostitutes.
Many noblewomen, unable to bear such humiliation, or unable to bear the shame falling upon their daughters, would prefer to take their own lives beforehand. I surmise that was the situation back then.
It wasn't until later that Empress Haoyue abolished the Jiaofang Si.
This practice then ceased.
Based on the information I could gather, it is highly likely that Empress Haoyue was truly dead at the time, or at least feigned death. This is because to leave prison, aside from being sent to the Jiaofang Si, one had to undergo a dual verification by the coroner, remain in a state of suspended animation for a period, and only after being confirmed dead could their body be taken out and buried.
There is no precise evidence to determine the exact circumstances at the time, so there are two possibilities: either Empress Haoyue faked her death and left, or Empress Haoyue may have truly died then, and subsequently underwent some unknown mystical transformation, leading to her later change.
However, I believe regardless of the situation.
Empress Haoyue underwent a significant transformation after this. Not only did she suddenly possess many subordinates, but she also acquired a great deal of silver and the ability to fly and move underground. If we were to discuss fortuitous encounters throughout history.
Empress Haoyue's encounter.
Was the greatest fortuitous encounter from ancient times to the present.
It was even astonishing and difficult to comprehend, and her serendipitous encounter remains difficult to understand.
An immeasurable amount of silver, countless mysteriously vanished resources, hundreds or thousands of obedient subordinates, possibly steel monsters in human skin, flying discs, and later, terrifying steel behemoths over a hundred meters tall, and terrifying steel giants over a hundred meters tall. With these miraculous elements, she accomplished a regicide in the shortest possible time in history.
It is truly unimaginable and difficult to fathom.
I speculate, could Empress Haoyue have obtained the inheritance of the Mohist school, which had disappeared into seclusion for over a thousand years, and acquired all the achievements accumulated by the reclusive Mohists over a thousand years?
Ancient legends tell of the Mohists' skill in craftsmanship.
The Gongshu family was far inferior.
Ancient texts also record ancient people creating flying wooden kites and wooden puppets that could move flexibly like humans, and upon disassembly, were found not to be human. If someone researched based on this for a thousand years, they might truly be able to research human figures made of steel, giants made of steel, and even beasts made of steel and flying oval objects.
If others have different ideas.
I warmly welcome everyone to discuss together.
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#179654樓: I recently stumbled upon this thread again and looked at recent science magazines. Suddenly, I felt that things that puzzled many people decades ago.
Now seem to have answers.
That flying oval object, shouldn't it be what many science fiction novels mention as a flying saucer? And steel monsters in human skin, aren't those bionic robots proposed by some robot experts recently? Building a layer of bionic skin on the exterior of a robot can make the robot look similar to a human.
As for the particularly large steel monsters, there was an animation recently that mentioned something called a Gundam.
I feel it's quite similar.
So, the things Empress Haoyue brought out.
Are they high-tech products?
But Empress Haoyue was a figure from nearly a hundred years ago. I recall that a hundred years ago, they didn't even have steam engines. Did I transmigrate, or did Empress Haoyue transmigrate?
And with our current technology.
It seems we still can't manufacture the things Empress Haoyue is said to have produced. This is too unscientific.
#179655樓: Oh my god, I remember when I was studying Empress Haoyue's history over ten years ago, I thought the history was a bit absurd. Now it seems it's not the history that's absurd, but Empress Haoyue herself. But if Empress Haoyue had so many powerful high-tech products back then, why have they all disappeared now?
If Empress Haoyue had a mausoleum, I might suspect they were buried there, but Empress Haoyue has no mausoleum. So where did all that high technology go?
#179656樓: Ahhh, I'm going to let out a wild boar's scream. Empress Haoyue was simply cheating.
Looking at the descriptions of those high-tech products in historical records, if Empress Haoyue had those things, not only could she have easily overthrown Emperor Minghui, but she could have swept through our current era as well.
This is like using an anti-aircraft gun to swat a mosquito.
I truly believe now that the historical records are probably true, because I don't think people of that era, having never seen them, could have imagined various high-tech robots and high-tech Gundams solely from imagination. They must have seen them firsthand to describe them so specifically.
#179657樓: Uh, I really can't help but want to douse you all with a bucket of cold water. Please, you need to understand that the historical records concerning Empress Haoyue existed *before* the development of robot technology, bionic robot theories, and those so-called Gundam animations.
Following normal logic, shouldn't it be that current robot technology and bionic robot theories are inspired by historical records, and that Gundam animation is likely a imitation of the steel giants in Empress Haoyue's historical accounts?
Don't confuse the sequence of events.
People of that era hadn't seen robots, but people of our era have seen relevant records!
We created robots based on those records!
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#9561345樓: To be honest, I now strongly suspect that Empress Haoyue may have died then, and was later possessed by aliens, or before she died, she made some wish to aliens, and they agreed to help her fulfill it, which led to the subsequent events.
After the aliens helped fulfill her wish.
Of course, they had to take their things and leave.
For those who want to know more details, you can click the link below, which contains my latest writing on the legend of Empress Haoyue.
#9561346樓: I'm really annoyed now. Was Empress Haoyue a transmigrator or an alien? If she was a transmigrator, was it a physical or spiritual transmigration? And how did she bring those things with her?
If they were aliens, why would they help us?
And directly helped us usher in modernization?
#9561347樓: I see many people are constantly asking if the royal family possesses those high-tech products. Can people please not take historical legends so seriously? If the royal family truly had those high-tech products, wouldn't they have fallen to their current state with no real power?
Like mere mascots?
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#454545878樓: Something big has happened. The National Bureau of Mineral Resources has issued a new announcement, specifically stating that many previously undiscovered, but recently discovered, ore veins across the country show signs of excavation, and these were excavated by super large mining machines. However, it wasn't clandestine theft, because the traces are a hundred years old.
Then, the minerals recently donated by the royal family, following Empress Haoyue's original instructions, also have issues. After examination by many experts, it was found that although these are urgently needed minerals, a significant portion of them do not appear to be terrestrial in origin. Instead, they resemble extraterrestrial materials, some even containing unknown elements, new elements not present on our planet.
Coupled with the circulated picture collections of Empress Haoyue's steel monsters decades ago, I now have a bold hypothesis: those so-called steel monsters might have been mining machines, and those excavated ore veins might have been mined by Empress Haoyue using those mining machines back then.
After all, the temporal traces also correspond.
And the minerals stored and donated by the royal family might have been collected by Empress Haoyue later, out of guilt, or in case our future generations lacked necessary minerals for scientific research, so she used some means to collect minerals from outer space?
#454545879樓: Oh my god, Empress Haoyue's story seems to be getting more and more exciting. So now, whether she's an alien or a transmigrator, she definitely possessed extremely advanced high-tech products back then, right?
So, the question remains: where did those things go? Were they really taken away?
#454545880樓: Empress Haoyue seems a bit unsportsmanlike. Using those high-tech products to bully people who don't even know what a steam engine is. Isn't that like bullying a child? Truly unsportsmanlike!
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#99963158631樓: This is incredible! Did you all watch the moon landing live broadcast just now? My god, the great mystery that has perplexed us for over a hundred years has finally been solved. We finally know where Empress Haoyue collected those alien minerals from, and where the high-tech products in historical records went.
It turns out they were all hidden on the far side of the moon.
My god, I say Empress Haoyue is the best at hiding things from ancient times to the present, there should be no doubt, right? The things previous emperors liked, at most, they would bury them in their tombs. Empress Haoyue directly buried them on the far side of the moon. Oh, no, she put them on the moon. Truly incredibly awesome.
Everything is there.
The legendary flying saucers, robots in human skin, mechs, and even mining machines are all present, and they all work! My god, thankfully our technology has always been leading, and we were the first to land on the far side of the moon. If those other trash small countries had gotten there first, wouldn't the things Empress Haoyue left for us have been stolen by them? How much confidence did Empress Haoyue have in us? She wasn't afraid of anything going wrong.
#99963158632樓: I can't help it, I have to go back and burn incense for my father to tell him this good news. The things he never figured out back then finally have a conclusion.
Those things are indeed not in the hands of the royal family.
They are all on the far side of the moon.
#99963158633樓: Good heavens...
"Home sacrifice, shall we not forget to inform our father?"
#99963158634樓: But there's still one problem: was Empress Haoyue an actual person,呸, a transmigrator, or an alien?
#99963158635樓: So she could never have been human, right? Why don't people think more positively? What if it was really from the secluded school?
The Mohists, perhaps?
#99963158636樓: Those above, please accept the cruel reality. If it was really the Mohists.
Wouldn't Empress Haoyue have vindicated the Mohists?
#99963158637樓: Uh, I know a little. At least Empress Haoyue's ashes prove she was indeed human. But whether this person could have been a transmigrator or possessed by an alien is hard to say now.
We'll probably have to wait longer. Perhaps our grandchildren's grandchildren will be able to tell us the result when burning incense.
#99963158638樓: Speaking of which, why are you all so fixated on Empress Haoyue's identity? Regardless of whether she was an alien or a transmigrator, hasn't she brought us only positive influences?
Doesn't matter if the cat is black or white.
A cat that catches mice is a good cat.
#99963158639樓: But the key is, Empress Haoyue, right now, might not be a cat at all.
#99963158640樓: What, can't dogs catch mice? Black and white cat was just a metaphor, alright?
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